Karen May To Vote for Brad Schneider
Negative campaigning by groups supporting Ilya Sheyman motivated her decision.
State Rep. Karen May (D-Highland Park) has decided to vote for Deerfield management consultant Brad Schneider in Tuesday’s primary for the Democratic nomination for the 10th Congressional District seat currently held by Rep. Robert Dold (R-Kenilworth).
May made her decision today after groups supporting the candidacy of Waukegan community organizer Ilya Sheyman like MoveOn have flooded the northern suburbs with advertising and telephone calls for over week criticizing Schneider for some donations made to Republicans. Sheyman worked for MoveOn before leaving his position to run for Congress.
“Ilya’s negative advertising is full of overt distortions,” May said referring to the Presidential primary. “I’ve decided to vote for Brad Schneider. What Ilya’s doing is not good for us (Democrats). I’m not alone. I’m hearing this from my friends.”
May is particularly disturbed to see tactics used in a local Democratic primary that she normally attributes to Republicans on a national level.
“This is how the Republicans are flaying each other on the national level,” May said. “It’s not what we should be doing as Democrats in the 10th District.”
Schneider, Sheyman, Long Grove business owner John Tree and Mundelein attorney Vivek Bavda are competing in Tuesday’s primary for the right to challenge Dold. Dold is unopposed in the Republican contest.
As of 9:30 p.m. tonight, neither the Sheyman nor the Schneider campaign responded to requests for comments. Patch will update this story throughout the weekend when the two camps provide something to add.
Marilyn Thompson
8:08 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012
Thank you! I thought I was the only one who was fed up with the tsunami of negativity! Ilya could have gained my respect if he had spoken up against it. But he has been silent through it all.
Frank Ettinger
8:20 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012
Silent is what he should have been. It is Ilya's own campaign that funded smear sites online. Still live, by the way, his smear site does bear the distinctive "Paid for by Sheyman for Congress" tag that lets us know that he was not a passive participant.
OldDanFan
9:47 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
Bogus!
You want negativity, Marilyn & Frank?
Have you seen the commercial the Brad Schneider campaign released?—“Who is Ilya Sheyman?”
If you missed it on the TV, you can find it on you-tube.
But before you watch it, I’d like to point out that the word, “Bogus!,” highlighted in the artwork and in the script (“Attacks so absurd, the Tribune called them ‘bogus’”) is taken out of context.
Here is what Trib did say in its editorial, published 2/24/12:
“[Brad]'s taken some heat for donating to some of Republican Mark Kirk's congressional campaigns, but this is a bogus complaint. It's a testament to Schneider's independence that on other occasions he contributed to Kirk's opponents.”
Brad’s ad makes it seem like Ilya’s pointing out that Brad gave $$ to Kirk and to a slew of right-wing, anti-choice, pro-gun Republicans, such as Bob Bennett, of Utah, are “lies”
Only lie I see is the lie Brad Schneider told in the ad, the one where he says he is a “true Progressive”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-congress2-20120224,0,6025978.story
Go home, Brad!
Karin Weidman
8:16 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012
One of the few reasons my home phone is off hook for the next few days..Couldn't stand that guy's phone calls anymore. Granted the messages are still being left on my VM, but I can hit delete after it's over.
Frank Ettinger
8:29 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012
Karin, I'd say I feel your pain except I am fortunate to be living with my wife at her grandmothers house, and Grandma is a Republican - thanks to that blessing-in-disguise I have avoided getting any mail or phone calls from any campaigns. We got a robo request from Newt a few months ago for donations, but nothing since.
Miles J. Zaremski
9:31 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012
Mud slinging is part of how politicians act now-a-days...unfortunately. The word "distortions" has been used to describe what those who are supporting Sheyman say about Schneider. What these folks say is that Schneider has donated to Republicans and who has voted for Republicans in the past, that is not a "distortion; that is the truth. Without taking sides with this comment, I for one do not wish to see anyone running on a democratic ticket who even comes close in any way, shape or form with another having any connection---tenuous or otherwise---with those who wear the mantle of republicanism. Look what Republicans have been, are doing, the asserting they wish to continue to do with health care for all citizens, female health care, education, energy, and, well, you name it! If Rep. May wants to vote for Mr. Schneider, that is certainly her right. But just because she is an elected representative representing us in Springfield is no basis whatsoever for others to follow her lead.
Kugel
10:01 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012
I am disappointed in Ms May. I grew up in a state to whose right wing senator Brad gave a healthy donation. What does that say to the Democrats in that state? Equally demoralizing to Dems here is Brad's support of Kirk, which is to say he worked against them. And he wants to lead the 10th District? Not when he played against the home team. Ilya is telling the truth about Brad's contributions. This isn't negative campaigning. It's the facts.
flower child
8:22 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
Right on, Kugel! It's the facts!
Carol Kraines
10:01 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012
I have trouble with the appelation of "smear campaign" in discussing the Sheyman camp's response to Schneider's contribution record. "Smearing" would be saying he had an affair or something. This is factual, and admitted to by Mr. Schneider. As for robo calls, I have heard complaints from many (including Neil Steinberg) that Brad's campaign has inundated them with calls.
So why is Ilya vilified for this?
I agree with Miles that Republicans are increasingly representing a war on women, a war on health care, and a war on SS and Medicare. A "progressive" Democrat who supports these candidates makes one pause as to their sincerity. Brad has attacked Ilya on numerous occasions. Neither Ilya nor his campaign have called him names in response. I have worked on campaigns since Gary Hart ran for president - and have found this one to be the most honest, ethical and courteous - while making the contrast necessary to define himself against his opponent - with facts. I have great respect for Ms. May, but I disagree with this endorsement.
Standards
10:17 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012
Why would anyone care who Karen May is voting for, are we supposed to be lemmings and do the same cause of that? This is news? If that is her reason for voting for Mr. Schneider than thats no better than the logic of a 12 year old.
How anyone can support an alleged Democratic who supports Republicans with large donations (more than once) sounds too much like another Joe Leiberman to me. He was first a Democrat, then an Independent when his Republican beliefs started to show too much and due to that he lost his place on the ballot .
If Mr Schneider loses the election to Ilya, then are we to expect the same and see him on the ballot later this year as an Independent? Then what will Karen May do.
PIck a side and stick with it, and best to keep your decisions personal. This is not news last I checked.
Rich
7:39 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
I totally agree with you.
Sallh
10:24 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012
Karen May's logic in voting for Brad makes no sense! She does not like it that Ilya criticizes a fellow Democrat. The fact that Brad supports Republican candidates should be the reason she is not going to vote for him. Brad is NOT a loyal Democrat. I suspect May knew who she would vote for all along and is just using this tactic to smear Ilya Sheyman. My vote is WITH Sheyman.
Julie Hopkins
11:32 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012
I agree. I don't care who Karen May supports. If Brad Schneider voted with Republicans he has lost my vote. The war on women continues and I will not support anyone who supports that. Go Sheyman!!!
Matt H
4:33 pm on Saturday, March 17, 2012
Hi Julie,
Although Brad has supported LOTS of Democrats throughout the years, he has supported a small number of Republicans—solely in the context of supporting Israel. Just wanted to let you know that Brad is 100% for a women's right to choose and will fight for that right in Congress. Here's a post by Brad on his Facebook page about it: https://www.facebook.com/schneiderforcongress/posts/322301254482289.
Hopeful Progressive
7:30 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
For a bunch of people who don't care, you all seem freaked out enough to post your supposed apathetic sentiments. Seems to me that Ilya has more of his out of state cronies doing drive by comments. Yeah, Ilya cares.
OldDanFan
8:26 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
Aren't enough Indies in this district to make up for the Dem deficit that will occur if Brad runs in the fall. Dems, by and large, do not trust Brad. Might have something to do with the little Truth-in-Advertising problem he’s having with his message. You just can’t say, “I gave money to Kirk,” and then turn around and say, “I am a lifelong Progressive!”
When people hear these two statements coming from the same mouth, well, they just know what (or who) to believe anymore.
Go away, Brad. You were a detriment to your Party when you chose to support Kirk over Seals (or whoever the Dems had on the ballot) in election after election from 2002 thru 2008, you were a detriment to your Party when you chose not to rally your fellow Kirk-Democrats to help get Seals into office in 2010, and you continue to be a detriment to your Party when you misrepresent yourself--“I am a lifelong Progressive!”--and then have your minions throw insults at us (“Liar!”) when we call you out on it.
OldDanFan
10:19 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
House Rep. Karen!
In case you missed it here’s a link to you man’s mud pie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeFnxhuGFDo
This ad has all the classic symptoms of negative advertising:
Overt distortions:
“He can’t win on his record.”
Sure Ilya doesn’t have a “record,” but what **voting** record does Brad have?
(Other than his record of political donations, which is very telling indeed, and which, I might add, forms the entire basis for the Sheyman “mud”)
Quotes out of context:
“Attacks so absurd, the Tribune called them ‘bogus’”
(Trib had nothing to say about Sheyman's “attacks.” They did, on the other hand, think highly of Brad’s contributions to Kirk. How could they not? Trib LOVES Kirk, as we all know.)
Outright lies:
“They’re spreading lies about true Progressive, Brad Schneider.”
A of all Brad’s history of donations PROVES he is not a true Progressive. And B, the Sheyman campaign is not spreading lies! (They are, on the other hand, confronting the Brad camp on their false-- and yes, deceitful—use of the word “Progressive” in their effort to steal votes away from Ilya, who is the true Progressive candidate in this race.)
OldDanFan
10:20 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
Here is the transcript of the Brad ad:
Who is Ilya Sheyman?
He’s funded by out-of-state special interests.
He can’t win on his record, so they’re spreading lies about true Progressive, Brad Schneider
Attacks so absurd, the Tribune called them “bogus”
Democrat Brad Schneider, supported by Melissa Bean, Julie Hamos, and Susan Garrett for being pro-choice, endorsed by the Daily Herald and Tribune.
Show Sheyman and his allies:
We don’t like being lied to.
Brad Schneider for Congress.
I’m Brad Schneider and I approve this message.
Marilyn Thompson
10:41 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
I don't think the question is "who is the most loyal Democrat?". The more important question is "Who can defeat Rep. Dold?" All this political back-and-forth about party loyalty may result in electing the most loyal Democrat, but what if you lose all of us Independents over it? That will only help Dold's bid for re-election.
Carol Kraines
11:08 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
We're not discussing who is the most "loyal" Democrat - we're discussing hypocrisy ie calling oneself a progressive while supporting Republican candidates. If Brad called himself a moderate, and made his case honestly, I would feel that while we disagree on some issues, at least I know who he is and what he stands for. Ilya has been consistent, so I know that I'm getting a candidate with the core beliefs that he professes. I trust Ilya; his supporters trust him - and that's the bottom line. Ilya will beat Dold because he is that rare combination of smart, principled, hard working and aggressive.
liz albert
11:14 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
another great post, Carol.
could not have said it better!
Marilyn Thompson
11:23 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
Where is it written that one must be 100% Democrat to be progressive? I want a representative who will work across the aisle while also sticking to her/his progressive principles. I'm done with confrontational, one-sided, one-party politics.
liz albert
10:31 am on Sunday, March 18, 2012
Maybe not “written” anywhere, Marilyn, but there is a code, a hierarchy.
It’s like milk (Whole, 2%, 1%, Skim, Soy)
On the one hand, you have your Republicans (from right to left):
Libertarian, Reactionary, TeaParty, Conservative, Centrist, RINO (Republican In Name Only).
And then you have your Democrats (again, from right to left):
Left of Center, Blue Dog, Moderate, Liberal, Progressive, Socialist.
Brad, a Moderate, with his history of supporting Republicans, has no business proclaiming himself to be a Progressive.
His doing so translates to stealing votes away from the true Progressive in the race. The fear is that people would go to the polls, saying “I want a Progressive!” but instead of voting for Ilya, they vote for Brad. You can certainly understand why Ilya wouldn’t want anyone stealing any votes from him.
Going back to the Milk:
Let’s say someone (maybe he’s 25, is a Community Organizer) opens a milk bar. His specialty is Skim milk. It tastes great; everybody's buying it. But then some 50-yr-old businessman sets up shop across the street, selling “Skim milk that tastes like Whole!” The 25-yr-old does a little research, discovers that the “Skim milk that tastes like Whole” is in fact Whole milk. Does the 25-yr-old stay quiet, let someone go on hood-winking the cliental, stealing customers away from him?
Ask Brad, with all his “business” experience what he would do.
Hope this helps.
Jon Hall
10:49 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
Karen May voted to increase my income tax, then slinks off rather than face her constituents at the polls, and then speaks up with an endorsement. It's time to rid IL-10 dems of Lauren Beth, Karin, Susan, Terry and the rest their hangers-on. From the looks of things, Sheyman has a big broom. Scarry stuff, isn't it?
Sarah Martin
11:01 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
That's hilarious that you call Brad's commercial negative! He is defending himself from Ilyas attacks- What is he supposed to do sit back and and let this kid start horrible websites, send fliers with crime scene tape,and attack commercials. Yes he had to respond to his lies and attacks. Brad gave money to 69 democrats and 5 republicans he never denied it it's public record.Julie Morrison was a one time republican now turned democrat she was endorsed by Lauren Beth Gash the head of the Tenth Dems and every other local dem out there yet no one seems to care about that.
Jon Hall
3:04 pm on Saturday, March 17, 2012
I care. Since Brad won't disclose who has employed him or any quantified job experiences we have no way of knowing what if any ulterior purpose those contributions served for Brad. Anyone ever walk into a meeting in these parts seeking business from a government agency, only to have the meeting begin with "the boss is holding a fund raiser, how many tickets are you going to buy"? Failure to disclose any details about his work go hand in hand with the suspicion Brad brings upon himself by not enlightening voters as to exactly what it is he's been paid to do.
On the other hand, if you've lived and served in the area, then you also come to realize that the Morrison family lives to feed the old man's law firm. I've always believed Julie switched parties because it helps feed the firm's pipeline from the Democratic. The Morrisons are as inside as political insiders can get. Political party affiliation isn't what it used to be, insiders seek influence any way they can.
flower child
11:30 am on Sunday, March 18, 2012
Sarah,
Brad’s commercial is sleazy. There is no other word for it.
Filled with distortions, words (“bogus”) taken out of context, and outright lies.
In the commercial, Ilya is accused of “spreading lies about true Progressive Brad Schneider”
A of all, Ilya’s attacks (and yes, damn right they’re attacks) on Brad are filled with facts and annotated with footnotes, allowing the skeptic to look up said facts and see for herself.
B of all, the commercial implies that Ilya made up the whole Brad-gave-$$-to- Republicans thing.
And C, Brad gave 1000s to Kirk and 1000s more to other Republican candidates (as in right-wing, anti-choice, pro-gun Republicans), which PROVES BRAD IS NOT A PROGRESSIVE! Progressive Dems don’t give 1000s to GOP candidates. Period. Not even if they give 10’s of 1000s to Dems. That would be absurd to a true Progressive.
Equally sleazy:
The door hanger the Schneider campaign is using to remind people to vote. It includes President Obama's image next to Brad’s (actual) endorsers, implying that Obama has endorsed Brad as well.
Daniel
8:02 pm on Sunday, March 18, 2012
Jon Hall, Brad has disclosed who has employed him, he ran his own company. Here is his public linkedin page: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/brad-schneider/6/158/4b9 I don't really see how you are making a conspiracy about this.
Jon Hall
3:47 pm on Monday, March 19, 2012
Daniel0987:
That LinkedIn resume is the same platitudinous drivel I've already heard him mumble to my ears. If I hadn't already seen that site, I wouldn't be asking for specifics. In my working days that resume would have gone in the trash. Tree would get an interview.
Carol Kraines
11:12 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
Again - the honesty question - Julie was honest about her Republican past, and explained why she became a Democrat. She also doesn't describe herself as a "lifelong progressive". Veritas!
Charlie
11:34 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
I'm glad Karin endorsed Schneider. That cinches my decision. I will vote for Sheyman.
Dan Jenks
3:12 pm on Saturday, March 17, 2012
Gosh – as an independent it is remarkable to me that the Democrats seem prepared to nominate Ilya Sheyman. I might vote for Schneider in the general election but why would I vote for someone like Sheyman who has no interest in the fiscal problems of this nation? Why would I vote for someone who doesn’t want to compromise with others on the other side of the isle? Is that how we are going to get out of this mess? No changes to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid? Really, Ilya? We are going to bankrupt this nation if we don’t adopt some combination of tax increases and benefit cuts. You can’t ignore this fiscal critique just cause you don’t like Republicans – it won’t go away. We need candidates who will support Bowles-Simpson. Dold hasn’t compromised, Sheyman won’t compromise – perhaps Schneider will.
Carol Kraines
3:51 pm on Saturday, March 17, 2012
I think you misunderstand Ilya. He knows that he can't create jobs and build the economy without addressing the fiscal responsibilities that this country is facing. And creating coalitions involves a great deal of compromise. He has never said there will be no changes to SS and Medicare - he has said that he wants to save it, make it stronger and financially viable for the 21st century. Ilya is not a Tea Party type at all (though the opposition likes to mischaracterize him as such). He is practical and reasonable and will work for the common good.
NS mom
3:21 pm on Saturday, March 17, 2012
Re - earlier comments on State Senate race, "honest" is not a word I would use to describe Morrison. Just look at her video on the income tax issue. A vote for Milton Sumption is a vote for leadership, integrity, and results. Let's put the political establishment in their places...out of office!
Bob Blinick
11:13 am on Sunday, March 18, 2012
I would rather Ms. May decry the use of negative ads on both front-runners for the Democratic slate, and give the voters the information so we can make our own choice. That would lend some credibility to her position. As for her vote's value, I am glad that she has exercised her Constitutional right to cast her one vote.