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New Poll Puts Sheyman 18 Points Ahead

Washington analyst thinks Schneider will fare better against Dold.

 

A new poll released today prepared by Public Policy Polling for a group supporting Waukegan community organizer Ilya Sheyman in Tuesday’s Democratic Congressional primary shows Sheyman with an 18-point lead over Deerfield management consultant Brad Schneider.

After reviewing the poll results, an editor from the independent Cook Political Report which analyzes House and Senate races, sees Schneider with a slightly better chance to win the Nov. 6 general election against Rep. Robert Dold (R-Kenilworth).

Earlier: Sen. Link Blasts Sheyman Tactics

The poll of 629 likely Democratic voters with a margin of error of 3.9 percent shows 45 percent prefer Sheyman while 27 percent like Schneider. Long Grove business owner John Tree has 7 percent support while Mundelein attorney Vivek Bavda has 4 percent

The poll was taken after a week of advertising and telephone calls from groups supporting Sheyman flooded the area informing voters Schneider has made some donations to Republicans.

Of the people surveyed, 54 percent said they were less likely to vote for Schneider after learning about his donations. Schneider campaign manager Jarrod Backous dismissed the poll results.

“For weeks, the Sheyman campaign and MoveOn.org, along with other out-out-state allies, have been spreading lies about Brad Schneider and his progressive record,” Backous said. “There is no reason to believe anything that comes from these organizations with so little familiarity with the truth."

Sheyman’s campaign manager, Annie Weinberg, considers the results a validation of Sheyman’s efforts but remains cautions. "This poll reflects clearly the energy and momentum we feel on the ground,” she said. “We're encouraged by these numbers but we take nothing for granted.”

David Wasserman, the house races editor for Cook, told Patch today he thinks Schneider will fare better against Dold than Sheyman.

“Sheyman may well win the seat but they (the Democrats) will have a better chance with Schneider,” Wasserman said. “Sheyman could turn a learning Democrat race into a tossup. There is a block of pro business pro Israel voters who bristle at MoveOn.org and will likely side with Dold over Sheyman.”

MoveOn is one of the groups which have been advertising in support of Sheyman. Sheyman was its national mobilization director before leaving the job to run for Congress.

Related Topics: 10th district, Brad Schneider, Ilya Sheyman, John Tree, Politics, Robert Dold, and Vivek Bavda

Carol Kraines

6:12 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012

Ilya will easily beat Bob Dold. He has the issues on his side, and he will out debate, out organize and out fund raise Mr. Dold. Add the enthusiasm and energy that will engender a higher voter turn out, and Ilya will be the winning candidate.

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Alex

9:12 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012

Ilya's inexperience and far left views are the perfect foil for Dold to cement himself in the minds of voters as a moderate. Sheyman is the WORST choice for Democrats who care about wining in November. Schneider is the only one I see who has a shot.

FYI, while I respect your passion, when your argument is that your candidate debates better than the other guy, you're in serious trouble. Debates don't matter.

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liz albert

9:29 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012

Alex,
Schneider would be the worst possible candidate to go up against Dold.
If he’s smart (and I have no reason to doubt that he is), Dold will use Schneider’s past support of Kirk and other Republicans to drive a wedge between Schneider and the voters.
First wedge will be between Schneider and the Democratic base (I am including here Dem-leaning “Independents,” who might not vote in primaries, but tend to support Dem candidates in the general.)
How will Dold do this?
Easy. All he has to do is inform people that Brad contributed 3 times more money to Mark Kirk over the years than he (Dold) gave to ANY GOP candidate (other than himself) his whole life. Or he might tell them Brad contributed just shy of $6000 to GOP candidates, which makes Dold’s little $1000 contribution (to Mark Kirk in 2010—same year Dold was running for Kirk’s old office) pale by comparison.
Second wedge will be between Brad and the rest of the “Independents.”
Dold merely has to say, “I’ve never been anything other than a Republican; you’ll always know where I stand.” Plenty of people vote “on character,” and they want someone who can demonstrate that they are firm in their convictions. With Brad, you never know—one minute he’s supporting right-of-center Republicans, the next minute he’s declared himself “a lifelong Progressive.”

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Alex

7:32 am on Friday, March 16, 2012

Liz -

I respect your arguments, but I do disagree. Remember, most voters in the Tenth like Kirk. Brad's support of Kirk will help independents trust him as someone who can think for themselves and not blindly follow an ideology or a leader.

This is Dold's one chance to recast himself as a moderate after running as a Tea Party Republican two years ago. Ilya gives him the perfect foil to run against. He will portray himself as an experienced, centrist leader, which we all know isn't true. If Dold is successful, it will be a LONG time before we can get a Democrat into this seat.

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liz albert

9:14 am on Friday, March 16, 2012

Alex,
a.) You’re looking at the old map
b.) Most of the people who “like Kirk” are Republicans
c.) Ilya is Dold's "one chance to recast himself as a moderate"? Dold will recast himself as a moderate no matter who he runs against. That is how he won in 2010, by selling himself as a Moderate. No reason to think he won’t do so again.
d.) By **selling himself** as “a lifelong Progressive” instead of the Blue Dog that he is, Schneider appears downright untrustworthy, even sleazy.
e.) All this noise about whether or not Schneider is a true Democrat will not go away after the Primary. If Ilya’s team hadn’t dug it up, the Dold people would have.
f.) Yes, Ilya worked for MoveOn. So what? He’s damned proud of it. He has the endorsement of MoveOn, DFA, Progressives United. So what? Ilya’s a proud Progressive, these are Progressive organizations!
g.) Come to think of it, why isn’t Brad expressing outrage that MoveOn, DFA, and Progressives United didn’t endorse him?

Jon Hall

6:28 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012

Don't be naive. It will not be easy.

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Richard Heineman

7:11 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012

I took this poll and it was designed to show Ilya as the leader. The results cannot be trusted. I do not know who is in the lead, but this poll gave us no valid information.

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Nightcrawler

7:19 am on Friday, March 16, 2012

I hear you. I hate that kind of polling. And I'm really starting to hate this primary. All the sniping about who's "the real progressive" is every bit as idiotic as the Republicans arguing about "the real conservative." Next Tuesday can't come soon enough.

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blueforthe10th

10:01 am on Friday, March 16, 2012

Amen. This is increasingly frustrating, especially because the attacks, robocalls, and polls are clearly coming from the Sheyman camp. Next Tuesday can't come soon enough - Schneider all the way.

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OldDanFan

5:34 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012

Schneider people, don’t get all huffy and holier than thou.
Early in the primary season we were “polled” by some outfit that wondered if we would still vote for Sheyman if we knew he was only 25 and had worked for the extremist group, MoveOn.
Yes!, we said, but we understood that the pollster was trying to convince us NOT to vote for Ilya.

Dold Cockroach

7:39 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012

Based on the new 10th map, Seals would of received 52.7% of the vote in 2010. We lopped off Wilmette, Kenilworth and Winnetka in the new map. We added some NW Burbs that vote Democrat. Dold still wants to trash Medicare and then hand out gift certificates. He wants to privatize Social Security. The 10th will not be a leans Dem district, we will be a Democrat held district. Dold and his Grover Norquist promise will be over.

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SH

9:36 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012

The poll is clearly ridiculous. The questions asked were incredibly leading and echoed of Karl Rove's robo-calls in South Carolina during the 2000 Republican Presidential Primary against John McCain. Schneider is the only candidate with a chance of beating Dold because he can win over independents. Furthermore, more and more public officials are calling out the Sheyman campaign for their disgraceful lies and attacks. State Senator Terry Link, State Rep. Karen May, and State Rep. Elaine Nekritz all agree that Sheyman's attacks have no factual basis and are merely a distraction to the real issues at hand. It is sad that a 25 year old kid has resorted to the time-tested tactics of Karl Rove.

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flower child

10:03 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012

SH,
“Sheyman's attacks have no factual basis”?
So you’re saying Brad Schneider never made any of those donations to Kirk, Bennett, Johanns, Rogers, or Mark Kennedy? You’re saying Brad Schneider never voted in a Republican primary?

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OldDanFan

5:35 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012

again:
Schneider people, don’t get all huffy and holier than thou.
Early in the primary season we were “polled” by some outfit that wondered if we would still vote for Sheyman if we knew he was only 25 and had worked for the extremist group, MoveOn.
Yes!, we said, but we understood that the pollster was trying to convince us NOT to vote for Ilya.

Carol Kraines

9:56 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012

If this "kid" is such a loser, why do you have your drawers in such a bunch over him?
Your list of officials who accuse the Sheyman campaign of "lying" are all Schneider supporters. I could give you an equal list of Ilya supporters who think he is correct in his criticism of Brad - supported by the public record ie facts. However, this is playground nonsense. The bottom line is that we trust Ilya to fight for equal funding for education, for fairer taxes, for a jobs bill, for the rights of workers, for saving Medicare and SS, and for appropriate financial regulation. Brad's support of conservatives, who are in opposition to all these things, makes us wonder what he really believes. And making a comparison to Karl Rove smacks of desperation.

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SH

10:11 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012

No, what I am saying flower child (and you know that it is what I am saying) is that Schneider's donations to Republicans does not make him a right-wing conservative. Nor does it make him pro-life, anti-environment, or have some diabolical plan to end Social Security and Medicare. Those donations were made in the context of a strong US-Israel relationship (which you know, but choose to ignore). Donating a small portion of your total donations to Republicans does not make you a Republican or any less of a Democrat. Perhaps you should oppose President Obama in November (he seems to conservative for your liking).

Regarding voting in a Republican Primary. It was done because there were no competitive races on the Democrat side, and Schneider (as he has explained) had a close personal friend running in a competitive Republican primary. If you want to fault him for supporting a friend, fine (perhaps Schneider even knowing Republicans makes him too conservative for you). I am sick of the distortions and the lies. Yes, Schneider gave a small amount of money to Republicans in the context of Israel. Does that make him any less of a Democrat...NO (just look at his Issues page on his website schneiderforcongress.com ).

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flower child

10:44 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012

Pot calling the kettle black, SH.
It is a distortion of the truth, if not an outright lie, to have Brad claiming to be “a lifelong Progressive.”
I have asked you a ba-zillion times already—do you (or anyone else on the Schneider campaign) even know what a Progressive is?
Here, this might help:
As you and I am sure Brad are aware, there are a lot of ways of being Jewish, from secular on up to Ultra-Orthodox.
Brad’s claim of being a Progressive is akin to a person claiming to be Orthodox while eating a shrimp cocktail. In the car on a Saturday morning.

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Jon Hall

10:49 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012

Tell us more about Brad's business career. Does he have a resume like Torelli? Who has he worked for, when, what did he do for them? What's behind the consultant facade?

dz

10:57 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012

The Sheyman poll was so skewed and biased. There is no way he can win in November. His inexperience will be a huge liability. Not impressed with his ideas and I consider myself a liberal. He's too left wing for this district. Big mistake running Sheyman.

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Carol Kraines

11:55 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012

Ilya has had a lot of political experience. He knows how govt. works. Brad has been a business consultant; how does that translate into representing the district? Starting with little money or establisment connections, Ilya has built a powerhouse organization, and raised enough money and support to outpoll Brad - who has both money and connections.
I can't speak to the viability of the poll - but I don't see the Schneider folks attacking John or Bavda. Last point - I can't think of any area where Ilya is "too left wing" - good education, affordable health care, jobs?

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Alex

7:44 am on Friday, March 16, 2012

Ilya spent less than four years getting people "organized" on the internet. That hardly qualifies as political experience. Starting with little money, maybe. No establishment connections, I call foul. This kid worked for MoveOn and DFA. Like it or not, those are two of the biggest political establishments in the business AND those are the two main bankrollers of his candidacy. Of his 16k claimed contributors, less than 5% come from the district.

Its amazing how a 25 kid who's only "experience" has been jobs working for special interests in DC, comes home to run for Congress, and funds his nearly entire campaign with direct help from his old employers. Those same employers then decide to spend a hundred thousand dollars in Independent Expenditures to help him win his primary, by establishing a purity test and falsely accusing the other candidate a member of the opposing party.

If this was the Tea Party, Club for Growth or another right wing organization people would go bananas. But since it is MoveOn and DFA, its ok?

Incredible.

Let me ask this. A vote comes up in the House. The district, being more centrist leaning than Mr. Sheyman, wants him to vote for a compromise and pass the legislation. MoveOn sees an opportunity to make a political statement and wants him to vote against it.

Who is Ilya loyal to? His friends, former employer and the group that has funded and controls 95% of his campaign cash, or the voters of this district?

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flower child

8:56 am on Friday, March 16, 2012

“The district, being more centrist leaning”
Alex,
Oooooo, kinda begs the question:
WHY didn’t Brad Schneider run as a Centrist?

Dan Z

9:03 am on Friday, March 16, 2012

As a Republican, I'd be thrilled if Sheyman were the nominee. Contrary to some bogus comments on this story, this is a centrist district and Dold (a centrist by any standard) would beat a young, leftist organizer. Great news.

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Charlie

9:54 am on Friday, March 16, 2012

It's all in the turnout, and your voters aren't excited about the top of the ticket. You're PO-ing a lot of women who may turn out against you, and your dolt has signed too many pledges influencing how he votes to be trusted. Good luck with that.

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Dan Z

3:01 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012

He signed pledges to do things he believes in. Dold is clearly pro choice. Try finding a real criticism.

Nightcrawler

9:11 am on Friday, March 16, 2012

That's it. Just got back to back robo calls from Sheyman and Schneider, equally sophomoric. Then my U-verse server crashes, which includes my landline. If I'm a Republican, I take that as a sign from God. But I'm not. And it isn't. Bottom line: I'm voting for Tree. Unless he robocalls.

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Pizzaiolo Mike

9:17 am on Friday, March 16, 2012

So why are people voting based upon how strong a candidate's support for Israel appears to be. Is this district an Israeli territory? WTF???

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Frank Ettinger

11:12 am on Friday, March 16, 2012

I think points about energizing the base are well taken but the fact of the matter is this is generally a very well informed district with a history of relatively high voter turnout - and there is only so much expansion of the electorate realistically possible. Of those that are registered, fully 40% in this district call themselves independent and they are the block that I think David Wasserman was referring too. This will not simply be a matter of bringing out the base. Whoever the Dem candidate is, he will have to prove his credentials over and above those of Bob Dold to this independent bloc.

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Marilyn Thompson

4:16 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012

Hopefully these poll results will bring out the Schneider vote. Independents take heed. We need to vote in large numbers!

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OldDanFan

6:02 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012

Hopefully not.
Aren't enough Indies in this district to make up for the Dem deficit that will occur if Brad runs in the fall. Dems, by and large, do not trust Brad. Might have something to do with the little Truth-in-Advertising problem he’s having with his message. You just can’t say, “I gave money to Kirk,” and then turn around and say, “I am a lifelong Progressive!”
When people hear these two statements coming from the same mouth, well, they just know what to believe anymore.
Go away, Brad. You were a detriment to your Party when you chose to support Kirk over Seals or whoever the Dems were running in election after election from 2002 thru 2008, you were a detriment to your Party when you chose not to rally your fellow Kirk-Democrats to help get Seals into office in 2010, and you continue to be a detriment to your Party when you misrepresent yourself--“I am a lifelong Progressive!”--and then have your minions throw insults at us (“Liar!”) when we call you out on it.

Carol Kraines

5:48 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012

The bottom line is this - who do we trust, as Democrats, to stand up for our views? I made my decision on what objective criteria was available - given that neither candidate has been in office. On one hand, we have Ilya Sheyman, who has spent his life working for progressive causes like equal education, health care, jobs and safety nets. He has organized a huge organization, he debates like a pro, and his depth of knowledge on the issues is amazing. On the other hand, we have Brad Schneider, who has been in business, has supported some Republicans, and has expressed more conservative views on tax policy. He does appear to be a social liberal, but in his long term support of Kirk, I'm not sure he's been honest about where he stands on issues - especially when he calls himself "progressive". That is why I support Ilya Sheyman. The House of Reps is the most radical in years, and Santorem may become a real presidential contender. (he is close in IL) So I want a to send a Democrat that I can depend on to Congress. That solid Democrat is Ilya Sheyman. As Howard Dean put it - I am supporting Ilya BECAUSE he is 25. It is his generation that is facing the jobless issues, the education costs, the warming planet - and it's his generation that will be fighting to improve this country.

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Carol Kraines

6:33 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012

Have to add that Ilya is adding endorsements by the day from a broad range of groups - from the Sierra Club to NOW to Hispanic Caucus Chair Iris Martinez to National Nurses United to United Steel Workers - in addition to Russ Feingold, Howard Dean, et.al. He can beat Dold with this coalition and hard work.

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