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Poll: Was Too Much Spent on Schneider-Dold Race?

Between the candidates and outside groups, $13.1 was used to influence voters. Should some of that money been used for another purpose.

 

What did $13.1 million buy the voters of the 10th Congressional District in the election that will make Rep. Elect Brad Schneider (D-Deerfield) the area’s Congressman in January?

Patch will not give its opinion but our latest unscientific poll will give readers an opportunity to weigh in on the subject.

Earlier: Schneider Beats Dold in 10th District Race

When the Illinois General Assembly redrew the state’s Congressional map 17 months ago after three straight razor thin contests, the new 10th District was considered slightly more Democratic. The seat has been in Republican hands for 32 years under former Rep. John Porter (R-Wilmette), now Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Highland Park) and Rep. Robert Dold (R-Kenilworth).

Schneider’s 2,631 winning margin over Dold Tuesday, according to unofficial results, showed that 17 months and $13.1 million later the race was still close and the District is a little more Democratic. That is the amount of money Schneider, Dold and outside groups supporting them spent on the race, according to a story in the Chicago Tribune.

According to the Tribune article, Dold raised $4.2 million and outside groups spent another $4.7 million helping him including close to $1 million from New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg. Schneider took in $2.5 million and was the beneficiary of another $1.7 million in independent expenditures.

Had Bloomberg elected to give the money to the local township food pantries, it would have been enough to feed those in need in the area for more than eight months according to information provided by West Deerfield Township Supervisor and state Sen. Elect Julie Morrison (D-Deerfield).

According to Morrison, who operates the West Deerfield Township Food Pantry, it would take $73,000 to feed those in need in Deerfield as well as parts of Lake Forest and Highland Park for a year. Based on the size of the township and the 10th District, $1 million would last more than eight months.

Patch contacted Bloomberg’s office to find out if he was pleased with the outcome of his expenditure or would have considered the money better spent feeding those in need. He did not respond by the deadline for this story.

The outside spending was accelerated by the Citizens United case decided by the United States Supreme Court in 2010 which allows unlimited spending by outside groups on political advertising without disclosing the source of the funds.

Campaigns themselves must report all donations in excess of $250. Donations to candidates are also limited by federal law to $2,500 from an individual and $5,000 from a political committee.

Patch readers now get to voice their opinion in the poll below. This poll will remain open through 5 p.m. Wednesday and the results will be published Thursday.

  • Should outside groups purchasing political advertising fall under the same campaign finance rules as candidates?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • Yes
        19 (95%)
    • No
        1 (5%)
    Total votes: 20
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: 10th district, Brad Schneider, Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, Democratic Party, Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Politics, Republican Party, Robert Dold, and elections 2012

Jose

8:25 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

I want to see term limits for all politicians, 8 years and out for all.. The president have term limits, why not the congress---senate ??? only voters should make political contributions to their candidate. It should be a limit on how much they can spend.

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SeanS65

7:07 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Jose...we do have term limits...they are called elections.

Samuel Ramey

8:51 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

Yes, too much was spent--especially from outside, but the best man won!!

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Old H.P.

9:32 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

Of course too much money was spent on an election that was already rigged. The fact that Madigan’s corrupt machine mathematically moved the district around to give democrats the advantage says it all. This election was all about cheating, cheating the voters out of responsible legislators. Karen May and Susan Garrett you taught the kids cheating in politics is OK, god bless have a great retirement while the rest of us fix the financial mess you left. For all the good you did Susan your legacy should now be that of a cheat, another corrupt politician a Mike Madigan flunky, very sad Susan.

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larry

10:27 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

Another Tea Party loser we now hear from, must be a Joe walsh supporter also

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Diablo R

10:43 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

Larry - Why the personal attack and name calling? Not very mature

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dold's supporter

7:32 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

Joe, is ok. Dold wasted $9 mil and for what? It seems people's votes could after all beat crooks '$ billions. Pretty soon all peasants will want full-time jobs and health care and all that reserved only for the Dolds..insolent peasants these voters...

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SeanS65

7:10 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

The GOP controlled the Lake County Board mapping and it played to their advantage. You have an issue with that also?

TJ Wheeler

10:18 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

Yes -- this is ridiculous amounts of money. I'm confused though -- Does this figure include money not counted but contributed by 'special interest groups' that do not have the same campaign reporting requirements as candidates have? Are the 'special interest groups' the same as the 'outside groups' the author is talking about? Sorry, but I'm slightly confused if there are one, two or three different groups in the political campaign reporting requirements.

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Steve Sadin

10:49 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

TJ, thanks for your comment. The $13.1 million includes the money the candidates raised as well as the amount outside independent expenditure groups spent on television advertising.

Merrill M

10:37 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

I feel too much was spent not only on the race for 10th congressional district, but state senate and state representative as well. The mailings and robocalls were not only not informative but a nearly daily reminder of how much money could have been used so much more effectively for food pantries and other social service agencies all across the district.

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larry

10:52 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

Diablo, where do you see name calling? Joe is just a loser ranting and I will bet he was a Walsh supporter

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Old H.P.

9:57 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Larry, if it makes you feel better to label someone that’s a reflection on you not me. My reference was on the 10th dist. and geared to Dold not Walsh but his dist. was also rigged now that you mention it. Here is the fact Madigan’s people used statistical analysts to redraw the borders. I used to be a democrat then a republican, now just someone that draws his thinking from the current realities. Honestly it boggles the mind to think about the current Illinois financial situation and then double down on democrats. Illinois democratic are not the ones your collage professors told you about, they are the self-serving political machine driven politicians that only serve their own interests. I only wish folks like you Larry would come out of your democratic bubble long enough to see where we are heading.

barry

1:13 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

Let's come back to earth and look at the original question:

answer? Of coarse!

Anyone newly elected that thinks he will jump in and accomplish anything first term is in for a rude awakening. Its all about fund raising. And it disgusts those in the house and Senate that can be considered "statesmen".....or who would like to be, not mere politicians.

I'm the real world no less than 40% of an incumbant's time will be spent on fund raising. The rest of the time? Who knows. Look at his/her record at the end of 18 months.

Who loves the present system as is, has lobbyists in place to argue and fight any modification that might be proposed.....and the individual pol that proposes it? TELEVISION, ...media. that's who.

Its a long road to change, but in my mind it all starts with "citizens united". Without it being addressed, nothing will change. Big business wins. That's the real world.

We need a hero or two.

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Gary

4:27 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

Really? How did big business do in this last election cycle?

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Old H.P.

10:31 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

The misuse of 501(c)(3) non-profits is the real problem in politics today. George Soros and Rupert Murdock use them when they support their Left- or Right-wing fringe groups. And taxpayers pay for both. Corporate CEOs and unions that want to invest in so-called non-partisan (yet biased) “think tanks” like Cato or Heritage, when they want to develop slanted studies that support their agendas and block others (like blocking legislation that would increase their tax liability but increase yours). I am not sure if anyone looked at the mailings or small print this election cycle, but if you did you will find out it was 100% 501(c) driven.

The Q

3:10 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

Only individuals should be able to contribute to candidates and only up to $1,000 per person......this crap is out of control.

Take the money and corporate influence out and politicians might actually vote in the best interest of their People instead of who is giving them money!

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Gary

4:34 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

If you want to get money out of the process then take the power away from the politicians. As long as politicians have the power to destroy businesses through taxation and regulation then it's only fair that businesses be allowed to spend money and fight back.

Remember... companies that get too big simply you charge you too much money. Governments that get too big will take what you have by force, jail you, or even kill you if you don't go along with their plans.

Think I'm being too dramatic? Let's ask the guy who made that movie about Islam who just got a one year sentence for .... WHAT? Walmart didn't put him in jail.

We don't have a problem with money in politics. We have a problem with too much power at the highest levels of government.

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The Q

5:26 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

Companies can't vote......why should they be able to contribute?

And the problem is money in Politics with out a doubt. Because money is the corruption. There is nothing wrong with power if the incentive is for the public good. When the incentive is for money because you need so much to get elected, each cycle takes more and more money, then that is the rub.

And why should rich people have more say than anyone else? limiting donations to 1k and eliminating company contributions (employees can contribute) is the only way to bring the balance back.

it takes 1 Billion dollars to become President.....a 400k a year job. Makes no sense at all.

Over 3 Billion dollars in the last election cycle......crazy!

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Gary

10:14 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

"There is nothing wrong with power if the incentive is for the public good."

Uh, er, aaaah, hmmmm. Well, uh, gosh! Oh boy. power, oppression, suffering, injustice, genocide, death, slavery, ignorance, history, history, History... Eureka! HISTORY!!!

That's it! Read some history about how much death and destruction has been meted out by those who claimed to wield power for the "public good". I can recommend "Death by Government" by R.J. Rummel.

When you finish that you might want to look into the theory of the US Constitution, where the whole intention was to LIMIT the power granted to the highest levels of government. Those limits to power were seen as they key to promoting the public good.

Wow. You almost melted my brain with that comment.

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The Q

10:31 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

youre talking in circles......Oppression, suffering, and injustice are not for the public good.

Somehow money for power is? How do you limit power buy allowing unlimited amounts of money? (this should be good)

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Gary

12:01 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

I'll try not to disappoint you.

220 years ago some Tea Party types found themselves with a brand new country and were asking themselves that very same question, "How do we create a government that will protect individuals' rights, while keeping the wealthy and powerful from controlling everything?"

The first thing they did was hand the source of all the power to the people by putting them in charge of selecting their leaders (Republic). Then they created a document which explicitly stated what the duties of that new federal government would be, and made sure it included only a few critical things, leaving all other powers to the States or the to the people (limited government). Then they protected this new government from abuse by dividing the power into three branches so that no one person or small group could grab control without fight from the other branches (separation of powers).

They wrote the US Constitution, and the greatest country the world has every seen was born.

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Gary

12:04 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

They knew this new form of government could only survive as long as the people bought into the underlying ideology of freedom, individuals' rights, and limited government which is the foundation of good governance. If the people gave up on those concepts, and were willing to sacrifice their rights and freedoms for handouts and favors, then nothing could protect the people from their own corruption, and the government would cease protecting individuals' rights and become a justification for legalized theft where the unscrupulous could gain power by using government authority to take property from their opponents and give it to their friends.

Government degrades into little more than a criminal enterprise. In our case, we have deteriorated to large scale inter-generational theft.

Our only safeguard against this fate is to ensure that we educate our population so that they know the ideological foundation which secures their freedom and prosperity.

.... and now I have also explained why the Democrats are waging a scorched earth war on ideology. That's why people who talk like me are called crazy, ignorant, hateful, heartless, racists. We have to be destroyed to pave the way for "change".

Well, we got it.

Clive Hohberger

2:32 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

The dumbest thing Dold ever did was sign the Grrover Norquist pledge, The Tea Party is so over in Illinois.

A Congressman's job is to 1)raise revenues, 2) pass a budget and 3 )control expenses. Batting 1 (#3) out of 3 may be great if you are a Cub, it is no reason to reeler you as a congressman. I'm so glad he'll be back in Illinois kill in cockroaches rather than in Washington killing legislation.

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Gary

9:26 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Actually, a Congressman's job is uphold the oath they took when they entered office:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God. "

You are right about one thing though. The Tea Party is over in Illinois, but then it never really had any power in Illinois in the first place. Everyone take note that the Tea Party, and all "angry old white men" have nothing to do with the government now running Illinois. We answer for nothing that happens here.

Clive, can you tell me what the Tea Party did to destroy the finances of Illinois? If they didn't, who did? What are the Democrat's plans for fixing it?

Tough questions that no one is asking.

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Gary

9:28 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Oh, and if raising taxes at the federal level is the solution to our fiscal problems, why didn't raising taxes in Illinois work?

No one will answer that question.

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Jon Hall

9:16 am on Tuesday, November 27, 2012

I would like to learn what the FAT ONE, Louis G. Atsaves has to say now.

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Walter White

11:27 am on Tuesday, November 27, 2012

Probably busy crafting his Mike Madigan zingers for 2014.

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