Gun Sense Needed

The League of Women Voters of Lake Forest/Lake Bluff believes that the proliferation of semi-automatic assault weapons and large capacity ammo clips is a major health and safety threat.

The League of Women Voters of Lake Forest/Lake Bluff believes that the proliferation of semi-automatic assault weapons and large capacity ammo clips is a major health and safety threat.  The League supports strong federal and state measures to limit the accessibility and regulate the ownership of these items by private citizens.  In addition, the League believes that there should be enforcement of strict penalties for improper possession of and crimes committed with assault weapons and high-capacity ammo clips and the adequate allocation of resources to better regulate and monitor gun dealers.

When the League of Women Voters of Lake Forest/Lake Bluff recently reviewed mass murders, most of the weapons used were assault weapons or semi- automatic handguns.  The increased lethality is because large capacity ammunition magazines enable a shooter to rapidly fire off many rounds without having to reload the firearm.  Large capacity ammunition magazines have made possible some of the worst mass murders ever committed.

Given the heartbreaking killing of young, innocent children in what should have been a safe learning environment; it is clearly time that our state and federal legislators prohibit the buying of guns with high-capacity magazines and close the loophole that allows people to buy guns at gun shows in most states without a criminal background check.  Most Americans, and most gun owners, seem to indicate that they would support such sensible gun policies.  This is not about being “anti-gun” or “gun control”, this is about sensible gun policies for our health and safety.  Please join the League of Women Voters in requesting that our legislators pass such sensible laws, thus becoming good role models to our children.

The League of Women Voters, a nonpartisan political organization, encourages informed and active participation in government, works to increase understanding
of major public policy issues, and influences public policy through education and advocacy. For more information, please visit our website www.lwv-lflb.org We welcome men and women to become members. With over 90 years of experience and 800 local and state affiliates, the League is one of America's most trusted grassroots organizations.

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Gary January 14, 2013 at 09:21 PM
Actually, the largest mass murders that ever occurred used very few guns. Socialist and Communist governments are the biggest mass murderers of all time, killing people millions at a time, usually through mass starvation. Most people agree that mas murder through starvation is a bad thing. Will the non-partisan LWV join me in standing up for the protection of individual's rights and condemn all collectivist thinking and it's intrusion into our society to ensure that the greatest killing machine ever created by man is never wielded in this country? Remember, it's for the children.
Liz Bradner January 14, 2013 at 10:29 PM
Personal weapons do not guarantee our freedom from tyranny. Informed, civically involved voters do. AK-15's would be no match against the weapons our military posseses, as muskets were a match against the British Army in 1776. Personal weapons are the instruments of suicide, killiing of policemen, and other homicide. Let's take the first step in reducing this by banning semiautomatic assault weapons and high capacity magazines, which nobody needs for self defense or sport. Broader mental health care would help too, if we can afford it. Liz
Eric Grenier January 14, 2013 at 11:24 PM
What people like Colin Powell, big city governors, churches, teachers and school chiefs all over the country are beginning to discover is, hunting interests are not what's really behind allowing private ownership of increasingly lethal weapons. It's fear. People suffering from paranoia, weapons manufacturers, and political interests who depend on eroding faith in our Federal Government work together to ensure the lusty desires of these unstable people are maintained. Rather than arm them, shouldn't we be worried about anyone who has delusions that their own government is about to attack them? Are we to continue to bow to this kind of cynicism? When will one of these people or, worse, a group of these people - with a year's supply of food and water in their basement - launch a preemptive strike? What if someone in the family like, say, a mentally ill child gets hold of the weapons cache and shoots up a school? No one uses such weapons for self defense - unless they imagine themselves going up against U.S. Marshals.
Gary January 14, 2013 at 11:57 PM
"semiautomatic assault weapons and high capacity magazines, which nobody needs for self defense or sport." "No one uses such weapons for self defense" Actually, guns are used constantly for self defense, but the media doesn't tell those stories because it doesn't support their view of the world. Most of the stories involve someone simply showing the gun which leads to the threat backing down with no one getting hurt. In fact, even if you don't own a gun, you have been protected by the knowledge that might own one. This is called the "halo effect" where statisticians have measured the benefits a single gun provides to all the people in the surrounding area. When is the last time you heard a story on the news about someone who lawfully stopped a crime with a gun? Never? Isn't it just a tiny bit hard to believe with 200 million+ guns floating around out there that not once on your lifetime has someone used a gun to defend themselves in a newsworthy way? You have been fooled into thinking that guns do no good at all through a sustained campaign of omission by news agencies with an agenda. You are being played.
Roger Billings January 15, 2013 at 03:33 AM
The LWV is supposedly an organization that promotes participation in government. Less known is their left-wing advocacy on issues. Don't believe it when they claim to host non-partisan events, and for heaven's sake don't give them any money.
Liz Bradner January 15, 2013 at 02:38 PM
The LWV is non-partisan because it doesn't support/advocate for any political candidates. Its candidate forums give all candidates an opportunity to state their positions on issues and ask for voters' support, unfiltered by media comment. On non-partisan issues such as gun sense, it reaches consensus positions after thorough study of facts and advocates for them. That is the responsibility of all citizens.
Eric Grenier January 15, 2013 at 02:42 PM
Actually, the viewpoint expressed by the LWV is no longer a simply left-wing opinion. Polls are showing the viewpoint expressed here to be a majority American viewpoint - somewhere between 60-40 and 67-33 - in favor of controls over semi-automatic weapons and expanded ammunition clips. Requiring background checks for all private gun purchases has even greater majority support. The Second Amendment has been increasingly distorted over time and people of both political persuasions are now arguing that case. The country is redefining the issue and the LWV is reflecting that.
Carl Castrogiovanni January 15, 2013 at 03:19 PM
That's a cute narrative, Eric. Too bad it's just untrue. More likely, it's your own thoughts and feelings that you are projecting...
Carl Castrogiovanni January 15, 2013 at 03:24 PM
"The League of Women Voters of Lake Forest/Lake Bluff believes that the proliferation of semi-automatic assault weapons and large capacity ammo clips is a major health and safety threat." I, an experience gun owner and sportsman believe the LB/LF LOWV is uninformed. "When the League of Women Voters of Lake Forest/Lake Bluff recently reviewed mass murders, most of the weapons used were assault weapons or semi- automatic handguns." The truth, from our own federal crime statistics, is that less than 2% of gun crimes invole so-called assault weapons. Eight of the past nine mass shootings in the U.S. have involved mentally ill gunmen. It's a mental health problem, not a gun problem.
Carl Castrogiovanni January 15, 2013 at 03:25 PM
Eric, Majority opinion is NOT what defines what is right.
Carl Castrogiovanni January 15, 2013 at 03:32 PM
Liz, Most U.S. soldiers would not follow an order to fire on their fellow citizens. Syrian citizens are making a pretty good go against their own tyrranical government. Most hunting weapons ARE semi-automatic. Low-capacity magazines can be swapped in 1-2 seconds, so limiting magazine capacity is folly. If you and yours want to amend the constitution to alter the second amendment, there is already a process for doing so. Attempting to abbrogate our rights by fiat (as you guys seem to want) will get nowhere.
J.C. January 15, 2013 at 04:55 PM
I was pleased to read the reasonable and civil statement by the League of Women Voters, in contrast to the fabrications and hyperbole of others.
Carl Castrogiovanni January 15, 2013 at 06:58 PM
I'll agree that the LOWV statement had less fabrication and hyperbole than the gun controllers remarks of late, but their still wrong.
Roger Billings January 15, 2013 at 07:41 PM
Eric, since you don't provide any citations for your statistics, we have to assume you made them up. But, just for fun, let's pretend they are true. As Carl correctly observes, you cannot simply abrogate part of the Constitution by mob rule, and certainly not by "Executive Orders." Sorry. Oh, and one other thing. Try as you might, you also don't get to run roughshod over the Constitution based on your revisionist opinion about history. It is not a living Constitution, and people like you don't get to simply ignore it based on some ill-founded feelings and desires to control others.
Eric Grenier January 15, 2013 at 08:26 PM
The poll results are being reported today by the Washington Post. http://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2013/01/14/National-Politics/Polling/release_192.xml My point was only that it is not appropriate to imply that the LWV statement should be disregarded for being purely partisan. I'd also like to state that right-wing extremism has been reported by the Dept. of Homeland Security (report in 2009). There are numerous websites and blogs supporting militia groups, "One World Order" fears, etc. According to The Telegraph, "Nancy Lanza, whose gun collection was raided by her son Adam for Friday’s massacre at Sandy Hook school, was part of the “prepper” movement, which urges readiness for social chaos by hoarding supplies and training with weapons." Gun sales have skyrocketed in response to political events - these indicate to me that fear is motivation for many to purchase. The Southern Poverty Law Center also issued a report about this in 2010: http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/spring/rage-on-the-right Finally, the right to bear arms in a "well regulated militia" leaves a lot for interpretation. My guess is, "arms" did not mean hunting rifles - it meant guns for war.
Gary January 15, 2013 at 09:05 PM
Eric has proved my point. This isn't about guns. This is about the demonization and marginalization of anyone who opposes Democrats. It's the same crap no matter what happens. Every crisis brings on the same response now. Hurricane? Republicans' fault. Financial disaster? Republicans' fault. Blood in the streets? Republicans' fault. Bad weather? Republicans' fault. Some crazy guy shoots up a bunch of kids and now every gun owner is accused of being a paranoid nut case. Are there any reasonable Democrats out there who will stand up and put a stop to this?
Eric Grenier January 15, 2013 at 10:26 PM
Nope, I do not blame Republicans for this. What I've read, and the one person I know who believes all of this paranoia, they distrust all of the government and consider Republicans a threat, too. Many responsible gun owners and collectors know an assault weapons ban and background checks for mental illness and magazine restrictions are no threat to 2nd Amendment rights. Again - "Well regulated".
RationalTht January 16, 2013 at 04:40 PM
@Eric - maybe we need a mental health check before we allow some people to post on the internet or otherwise express their free speech rights? Is that the next step for the "progressives" such as yourself. As for your "well regulated militia" comment, the Supreme Court has already decided that means all people - no matter how many times your side wants to keep changing the definition.
RonnieTheLimoDriver January 18, 2013 at 12:42 AM
Does the league of women voters of LF/LB even know what a semi automatic gun is? I bet not.
Disband LOWV January 18, 2013 at 02:02 AM
My question is. Who really gives a crap what the LOWV thinks? They are as corrupt as the AARP. If the LOWV believes in what they spew. Then why doesn't each one of their members place a large sign on the front door of their homes stating that this a gun free house? I think We the people should BAN the LOWV. It is quite apparent that they are a very dangerous organization. Or maybe we should tell them when they can meet, how many may attend and of course for all of our safety they will need to walk to the meetings. Cars are way to dangerous for people like them to be driving.


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